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Sunday, November 29, 2009

Trustee Candidates

We again have the opportunity to become involved in the affairs of the Hideaway Valley Property Owners Association be becoming a candidate for one of three Trustee positions. These candidates will be voted on at an annual meeting of the members January 23, 2010.

Now is the time for those who were critical of or not happy with the way the Trustees who recently resigned conducted our business to step up and take a turn at the wheel. One of the candidates will be elected to serve only until the annual meeting April 17, 2010 and the other two will be elected to serve until the April, 2011 annual meeting.

The HVPOA Newsletter you recently received has all the information you need to submit your declaration of candidacy.

Thursday, November 26, 2009

Why do we still have conflict within HOA communities? « HOA Constitutional Government

George Stropoli has been fighting for homeowner rights for a very long time--here is his blog--I do hope that we are able to stop using our homes and property as collateral here in Hideaway with some type of prohibition in the new covenants! People don't realize that they hock their homes and land when they buy into Hideaway--read George's commentary--it will enlighten you.

Why do we still have conflict within HOA communities? « HOA Constitutional Government: "Such education by CAI educated groups focuses on how to live within the oppressive regulations and covenants of the authoritarian HOA regime. Homeowners are told this is the law, and there is no mention of the injustice and loss of rights resulting from living in an HOA. This form of “education” reminds me of the mandatory totalitarian indoctrination classes designed to influence the mindset of the masses, and especially of the children.

For example, homeowners are not told that they have unknowingly pledged their homes as collateral in order for the undemocratic, authoritarian HOA regime to survive. Just stop paying your assessments, or try to put them in a trust fund while waiting to resolve a dispute with the HOA, and see what happens."

Wednesday, November 25, 2009

Happy Thanksgiving

Here is wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving. May you all connect to your nearest and dearest family and friends. May there be a turkey in every pot, and stuffing to fill your bellies. May your homes ring with warm conversations and much laughter. May we all reflect on the things most important in our lives. May we reach out to those who need us. And most of all, may we give thanks to the God of Heaven from which all blessings flow.

Monday, November 16, 2009

let Go and let God

Is God in charge? Read this story and see what you think:

The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited island.He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him. Every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming.

Exhausted, he eventually managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect himself from the elements, and to store his few possessions. One day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his little hut in flames, with smoke rolling up to the sky. He felt the worst had happened, and everything was lost. He was stunned with disbelief, grief, and anger. He cried out, 'God! How could you do this to me?'

Early the next day, he was awakened by the sound of a ship approaching the island! It had come to rescue him! 'How did you know I was here?' asked the weary man of his rescuers. 'We saw your smoke signal,' they replied.

The Moral of This Story:
It's easy to get discouraged when things are going bad, but we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of our pain and suffering. Remember that the next time your little hut seems to be burning to the ground. It just may be a smoke signal that summons the Grace of God.

P.S. You may want to consider passing this on, because you never know who feels as if their hut is on fire today.

Thursday, November 12, 2009

You are all my Heros

You have to read how Vivian explains how much she loves this valley--thank you so much for moving here!

No more Blame Game!

~It is my hope that we will all try to heal our community by looking at ourselves, and not pointing out fault in our neighbors. I know the past two years have been difficult for all our board members. I do appreciate their hard work and effort to benefit our valley. It is unfortunate that our board had problems functioning as a board should right from the beginning. Disagreements quickly turned into fights. Personal issues between board members soon became association business, and this simply should not have happened. I wish things would have had a positive outcome. I wish all board members would have found a way to work together as a whole, setting all personal matters aside to focus on what mattered most. I feel it is a shame that some board members feel they have been accused of stealing association funds from the members. I for one have never heard anyone accuse any board member of doing this. I am sorry they feel that way. This is the very reason I feel it is important to have complete transparency. I think a monthly budget report would be a great way for members to visually see where and how their money is being used. I hope we will not play the blame game, and we will all desire to to see the good in one another. The truth is we could go on and on about who did what, why, and how? But there is nothing we can do to change the past. I think the only good that can come from this situation is if we are willing to learn from it. One of the reasons I would like to see our documents reviewed before they are renewed this next year is to possibly add some protections for future volunteers, as well as protect private property rights. I would like to explore the idea of creating a procedure to resolve any disputes among board members, and if needed have it taken to the members for a vote on the issue. I look at it this way, if we are all required to be a part of this corporation, shouldn't we all be working together to simplify the way it functions? We should all have the right to be informed, involved, and included in the decisions that affect our properties. I hope all members will help do this. We are all facing challenges in our own lives, and in the world around us. Lets pull together and focus on the basic needs of our community. It is still my opinion that “ Neighbors should not govern Neighbors.” It is my hope that we will not look upon our community as a business, but as a neighborhood. I think hideaway is still a beautiful place to live or use for family recreation. My family moved here because it was not the city. I hope we never see curbs and gutters, or homes in uniform color. I feel we can make things better for everyone by encouraging and helping one another as friends. There is still a lot of good that we can accomplish. Every property owner should have the right to feel equally welcome and invited to enjoy the peace and beauty that surrounds us here. ~Becky Peterson~

Tuesday, November 10, 2009


Three Trustees resigned and a New Trustee was appointed last night at the Board Meeting. This was a total surprise to me. However, many in the room seem to take the news in stride. Almost as if the news was common knowledge prior to the event. A large number of Members were present and showed remarkable restraint during what proved to be an emotional changing of the guard.

Please read Vivian's full recap of the meeting on the Member to Member site. Click Here

Monday, November 9, 2009


CALL TREE, what a wonderful idea. I support anything that gets Members to the Board Meetings. Lets all show up to tonight's Board Meeting and support the Board of Trustees in proper Association governance.

Unfortunately, I did not receive a call which makes me sad. What if it was an emergency? I would not have been informed. I would hate for anyone to be missed.

To insure that does not happen in the future, I think we should create a Member's Contact Directory and formally assign Captains responsible to call 5 or 10 property owners in the event the Call Tree is activated.

A Call Tree could be used for emergencies or for dissemination of information, i.e., evacuations or meetings to be held on short notice. The Board has said releasing phone numbers infringes on our confidentiality. Personally, If there was a wild fire you can call me anytime. But how do you feel about the idea?

HOA financials

Thanks for the responds, I will get a document ready this week for the next meeting, what would me and wife like to see happen? Well, first, I would like for the board member who don’t follow the Law to leave the board. And I have been looked over the document for the HOA Financial (Since I am a bookkeeper and working for accounting Audit my whole life); there is really not much Detail where the HOA spend our land owner’s money. I am not saying the book is dirty, I am only hoping for all landowner to gain more visibility for the HOA Financials. I have talked with Roy walker with road project on the mountain Hollow drive project, what I understand is he does agreed that road is bad, but there is no money on the yearly base for any road project (That does not sounds like a good Budget planning ),So the question comes : where the money is goes on what project? Is that the money spend on the benefit most land owners or just small group of people? Is that legal for where the money spends on? I do believe HOA Treasure should have the answer for my questions in detail. Visibility on the project and Financial will help all land owners to understand the money we pay goes to what we need (Road EST….) but small group wants (Attorney Fee EST.….). I apologize for anyone who might offend by my comment. Thanks again for Hideaway Member to Member who allows us to posting comment, thank you. Qi Zong

Sunday, November 8, 2009

Vivan, you are my hero

Vivian, You are my hero. Your comments on this site are absolutely wonderful. I thank God that you are a property owner in Hideaway Valley and you are involved. Good Job. Keep it up.
Louise Lot C233

Saturday, November 7, 2009

Is it time for the season to change?

I've been to a few meetings and would like to invite all owners to get active, or sell your property because Hide-a-way is going to be park city south with expensive assessments and angry neighbors.


It has been very interesting to read comments from other owners like Louise and
Terry. I appreciate their getting involved.

As the seasons change so should the board.

I'm not sure Rick really thought about his answer to Vivian, if it was his wife working to make a difference would he tolerate that kind of behavior toward his wife or family. If so am I or my family safe to be in Hide-a-way Valley.

Is Monday a good day for the board meeting?

Some members have pointed out that Monday is considered family night for most Mormons. Some feel it is almost as intrusive to have a meeting on Monday as it is on Sunday.

In order to get the mailer out in time for a Nov 21 members meeting, it had to be done almost on an emergency basis. If we had had the meeting as scheduled for Tue, this would not be the case. Since the board missed last week, this had to be done soon and Monday was it!

Another member suggested that it be considered a family thing to learn how our Hideaway government runs. They said, "Bring the kids." That would be a great idea for a family educational experience EXCEPT that our board is not functioning well right now and would not be a good example.

AGAIN--as many reasonable sober people as can, please show up. WE can observe and suggest how to function properly. We can bring our documents and our references and help them look up sections of the by-laws that apply to us. Lets be part of the solution, not the problem...See you Monday at the senior center!

Friday, November 6, 2009

Homeowners Associations: Boss Thy Neighbor

Homeowners Associations: Boss Thy Neighbor: "“Boards are still in denial that they can’t do whatever they want to do,” says Schneider"

You might want to read this article. It explains what is going on here---yeah, it does!

Tuesday, November 3, 2009

It's Time for Another Change in our Board

Perrylee and I enjoyed a light meal and some interesting conversation with two members of our Board of Trustees and 6 other Hideaway Valley owners/members at what was announced as a Board of Trustees meeting in Spanish Fork Tuesday evening. It seems that a majority of the Board suddenly developed conflicts and could not attend after one of our member couples requested that an item be placed on the agenda for an upcoming meeting of the members which was to be scheduled for Nov. 21. One of those three had indicated earlier in the day that he would attend but called the Secretary 20 minutes before the meeting was to start to tell him that he would not be at the meeting.

The agenda for the meeting was to prepare a notice of a Meeting of the Members including an agenda which was to include at least Voting on the proposed Collections Resolution which had been approved by the Board. Since this was to be a Meeting of the Members, it seemed appropriate that issues presented by members should be included on that agenda.

There is something wrong with this picture. We do not know whether the three absent board members really had conflicts or if they did not want to address the agenda item requested, or if they did not want to schedule the meeting of the members at which the Collections Resolution was to be voted on or if they just do not want members to be involved with the decisions being made on their behalf by this board majority.

I inquired about the status of the financial audit of the Association's revenues and expenditures for 2008-09 which was budgeted for and neither Board Member at this discussion knew anything about it. Many of us are concerned about the way our funds are being used and want the audit to verify for us that all is in order.

Further we have been told that a financial report has been available at each Trustees Meeting and one need only ask for it. We have also been told by some members that they have asked for financial reports but have yet to see one from this Board. The two Board Members at our discussion said they have not seen one either.

In response to my question I learned that the collections process in the resolution we still must vote on has already begun. I hope those owners who have already received notices of delinquency in accord with the Resolution will not be confused when they finally get a meeting notice to come and vote on the approval of the process which has already begun.

There is no indication when the next Trustees meeting will be. All the regular third Wednesday meetings have been cancelled and we were told that the Board approved a process of scheduling Board Meetings with a 5 day posted notice. I guess any three Board Members can schedule a meeting. There was no indication how this will work in practice. In any event there should be no collection actions until the members have an opportunity to vote on that Resolution and the meeting to vote on it cannot be scheduled until the Board has a Trustees meeting to set it up. By not showing up tonight the majority of 3 decided to postpone the Members Meeting.

With all this going on it is my position that this Board is disfunctional and that we need new Trustees who will conduct business in accord with our governing documents. We will have the opportunity to elect two new trustees in April or we could submit a petition to hold an election earlier to recall some of them earlier. The two positions up next year will be the seats held by Roy Walker and Clifford Johnson. If anyone has an opinion about how we should proceed, please post it on this blog.

I have served on Hideaway Valley's Board of Trustees twice. The first time was for two terms and the second was for a short term of two years. The second time was to replace a Board whose members made some major decisions and initiated legal action without consulting with the membership. We were able to turn this around and stop the large expenditures for attorney fees.

I have no interest in being a candidate again but am willing to "coach" anyone who is willing to volunteer as a Trustee and would assist in the conduct of meetings to facilitate appropriate participation of our members in our decision making processes.

Terry Holzworth